thanks AEH, HH and I dove in and built us up some. there is a slight learning curve to make these. I found I didn't need the shrink tube inside the gold tip nocks. We discovered to leave the positive lead long as it acts as a guide to help pull the led into the nock through your .030 hole. once you have your led situated cut remaing tag. I didn't glue the led to the neg post on the battery but HH soldered his for a tighter fit. I found that if my coil on the led was tight I could slide the battery up into it and add just a little epoxy to the battery right before the neg post was pushed all the way into the coil. so far seems to hold it okay. I also, took my dremel and shaved very lightly to the outside of the nock before installing everything to make it easier for the nock to slide in and out of the arrow shaft which makes it easier for me to turn on and off lighted nock. THANKS A TON MIKE FOR THE INFO

. I just wanted to share a few of my blunders and tips I found when I made the first batch. I got 6 made up and only ruined 2 led's. They all work great and are in my quiver. Gonna have to fill my recurve quiver now. The take about 5 minutes to make each. best to get an assembly line before you epoxy the battery in. It doesn't take much epoxy and I applied it to the battery with toothpick.